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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225374744" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225374744">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>Alright I setup the poll: <a href="https://doodle.com/poll/7x5dw8ysrxux6k9i?utm_source=poll&amp;utm_medium=link">https://doodle.com/poll/7x5dw8ysrxux6k9i?utm_source=poll&amp;utm_medium=link</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225374808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225374808">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I tenatively put times during next week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225374819" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225374819">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>45 minutes might be too little now that I think of it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225374824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225374824">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me see if I can edit those times easily</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225374936" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225374936">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can also shorten <code>birds of a feather</code> to BoF to save fingers</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375022" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375022">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:13)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375081" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375081">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>and our first agenda is either to start on the error handling book OR contributions to the reference</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375102" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375102">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure we've thought about adding to the reference yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375297" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375297">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think there may be a gap in the references coverage of errors and error handling</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375440">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>first thing that comes to mind is the panic internals</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375442">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>and how well documented that is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375450" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375450">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure if that could use some more detail</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375455" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375455">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>or if its even in there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375468" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375468">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>tho that might be more for the rustc-dev-guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375487" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375487">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>btw let me know if people would prefer text or video</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375491" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375491">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/runtime.html?highlight=panic#the-panic_handler-attribute">https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/runtime.html?highlight=panic#the-panic_handler-attribute</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375515" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375515">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>is that sufficient iyo?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375521">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>with some user friendly interjections for newbies <span aria-label="octopus" class="emoji emoji-1f419" role="img" title="octopus">:octopus:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375530" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375530">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/225375515">said</a>:</p>
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<p>is that sufficient iyo?</p>
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<p>yea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375532" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375532">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>looks great tbh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375584" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375584">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think I've ever seen panic code like that <span aria-label="thinking" class="emoji emoji-1f914" role="img" title="thinking">:thinking:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375588" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375588">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>tho we will probably have to add backtrace stuff to this "Rust Runtime" section some day if my PR continues the direction its going</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375597" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375597">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="281739">@oliver</span> thats because #[panic_handler] is normally defined by std</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375603" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375603">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>so you'll only see if in no_std code</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375619" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375619">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>std builds <code>std::panic::set_hook</code> ontop of their internally defined #[panic_handler]</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375626" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375626">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>so set_hook is dynamic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375631" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375631">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>but #[panic_handler] is linker magic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375637" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375637">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>tho its not really magic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375638" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375638">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/225375597">said</a>:</p>
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<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span> thats because #[panic_handler] is normally defined by std</p>
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<p>lol literally the next section <a href="https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/runtime.html?highlight=panic#standard-behavior">https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/runtime.html?highlight=panic#standard-behavior</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375644">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>heh yea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375645">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>like i said</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375649">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>the documentation looks good!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375658" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375658">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>happy to see it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375678">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yea we should definitely audit all the error handling related language featuers</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375711" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375711">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>i think a lot of our documentation wont end up belonging in the reference</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375719" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375719">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>because a lot of it is library level rather than language level</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375724" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375724">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>oic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375725">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>or even just stylistic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375735" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375735">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>but we should still check</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375750" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375750">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll add it to the task board</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375752" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375752">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>tyty</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375858" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375858">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/project-error-handling/projects/1#card-54364288">https://github.com/rust-lang/project-error-handling/projects/1#card-54364288</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375899">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm reminds me I left off reviewing legacy issues some time ago</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225375986" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225375986">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>In the book, is it possible to have a link to dylib or cdylib crate for someone that might want to see what that particular crate is?  I'm looking at the panic_handler attribute doc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225376168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225376168">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think all links have to be done in the body of text</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225376238" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225376238">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the code sections are actually live(ish) runtime environments</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225376454" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225376454">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not as well versed in a majority of what's available in the ecosystem so for something like that panic_handler doc, I'd have to go to the dylib and cdylib crates to see what they also do.  I would assume there are others in my position as well.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225376605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225376605">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we should start <a href="http://arewepanicingyet.com">arewepanicingyet.com</a>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225376805" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225376805">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Never panic <span aria-label="grinning" class="emoji emoji-1f600" role="img" title="grinning">:grinning:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225376859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225376859">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>livin' the panic life</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225376876" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225376876">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>After a while, you get use to it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225376907" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225376907">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that's where the reference is interesting since it helps separate the internal<br>
Rust lang concerns from a broader ecosystem of alternatives and approaches</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225376966" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225376966">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>where libs has interests in both sides internal and external</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225377540" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225377540">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Interesting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225377604" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225377604">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="344328">Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/225375986">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>In the book, is it possible to have a link to dylib or cdylib crate for someone that might want to see what that particular crate is?  I'm looking at the panic_handler attribute doc</p>
</blockquote>
<p>cdylib and dylib are types of crates not specific crates</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225377611" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225377611">(Feb 06 2021 at 00:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>as in dynamic libraries</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225377655" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225377655">(Feb 06 2021 at 01:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>i think cdylib is a c ABI dynamic library</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225377659" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225377659">(Feb 06 2021 at 01:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>and dylib is a rust unstable ABI dynamic library</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225382419" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225382419">(Feb 06 2021 at 02:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks Jane</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225938618" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225938618">(Feb 11 2021 at 01:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="281739">@oliver</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344196">@Jakub Duchniewicz</span> I'm sorry for not following up on the doodle poll earlier</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225938625" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225938625">(Feb 11 2021 at 01:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>But let's go ahead and schedule this for tomorrow</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225938637" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225938637">(Feb 11 2021 at 01:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>It looks like all 3 of us are available tomorrow from 12-2 pst</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225938647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225938647">(Feb 11 2021 at 01:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>That still sound good to y'all?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225938925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225938925">(Feb 11 2021 at 01:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>If I can contribute, I’m available</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/225939194" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#225939194">(Feb 11 2021 at 01:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds good to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226046137" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226046137">(Feb 11 2021 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>Reminder that this starts in 25 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226046295" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226046295">(Feb 11 2021 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049256" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049256">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>alrighty everyone</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049300">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>how would everyone prefer to communicate today?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049336" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049336">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking of creating a jitsi video call</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049377" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049377">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've had issues with jitsi in the past</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049396" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049396">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>is everyone on discord?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049445" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049445">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>If it was possible, video conferencing...zoom would b e cool</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049475" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049475">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>the only problem is I don't have a paid account for zoom</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049484" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049484">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I can't do 2 hour meetings</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049496" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049496">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah I'm on discord</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049556" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049556">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I"m not.  can someone send a link</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049587" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049587">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>lets just do zoom</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049616" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049616">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>gimmi a minute while I setup</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226049652" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226049652">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think you would simply restart the meeting at some point if they lock us out</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226050034" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226050034">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>yea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226050036" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226050036">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://us05web.zoom.us/j/8442204920?pwd=TnVaRjJ3Tk9qbVlweXZ0ZW4zQ3FvQT09">https://us05web.zoom.us/j/8442204920?pwd=TnVaRjJ3Tk9qbVlweXZ0ZW4zQ3FvQT09</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226050045" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226050045">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>lets see if this works!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226050291" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226050291">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>you'll need to let us in <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="220273">@Jane Lusby</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226050310" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226050310">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>i did not get a popup for you oliver</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226050896" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226050896">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344328">@Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/project-error-handling">https://github.com/rust-lang/project-error-handling</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226054167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226054167">(Feb 11 2021 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://rust-unofficial.github.io/patterns/">https://rust-unofficial.github.io/patterns/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226105794" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226105794">(Feb 12 2021 at 07:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if we ought to start a reading group <span aria-label="thinking" class="emoji emoji-1f914" role="img" title="thinking">:thinking:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226129891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226129891">(Feb 12 2021 at 12:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>@oliver  How do you imagine the reading group?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226156067" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226156067">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>damn, sorry did not see the messages as I was out yesterday at that time <span aria-label="frown" class="emoji emoji-1f641" role="img" title="frown">:frown:</span>. Are there any notes from the meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226156149" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226156149">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="344196">Jakub Duchniewicz</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226156067">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>damn, sorry did not see the messages as I was out yesterday at that time <span aria-label="frown" class="emoji emoji-1f641" role="img" title="frown">:frown:</span>. Are there any notes from the meeting?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>no worries</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226156197" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226156197">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have a couple of notes but they're not really meeting minutes or anything</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226156249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226156249">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>the main take away is that we're going to start scheduling short sessions to work on pieces of the book every week I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226156301" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226156301">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>we ended up ending early yesterday because I've not been feeling well recently</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226173649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226173649">(Feb 12 2021 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="344328">Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226129891">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>@oliver  How do you imagine the reading group?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>usually we would meet informally to read an article or work through a book<br>
like a study group but less structured around course work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226173683" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226173683">(Feb 12 2021 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226156301">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>we ended up ending early yesterday because I've not been feeling well recently</p>
</blockquote>
<p>get better soon!! <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226175784" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226175784">(Feb 12 2021 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think in addition to the weekly work sessions we could also be meeting to read<br>
through some related articles, blogs, papers and do a discussion, is anyone<br>
interested in taking part in something along those lines?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226176009" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226176009">(Feb 12 2021 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Speaking of blog posts to read, did y'all see this gem? <a href="https://msirringhaus.github.io/Where-everything-went-wrong/">https://msirringhaus.github.io/Where-everything-went-wrong/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226176459" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226176459">(Feb 12 2021 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>cute, Rust doesn't have <code>nullptr</code>s though?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226176623" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226176623">(Feb 12 2021 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it meant to say Rust handed something back which was interpreted as a <code>nullptr</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226194554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226194554">(Feb 12 2021 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="300743">@Sean Chen</span>  The concert of the way it’s laid out and explained is, for me, very user friendly/accepting.  For me, it’s similar to the way libraries are explained in the R language.  I like this.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226258381" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226258381">(Feb 13 2021 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="300743">Sean Chen</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226176009">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Speaking of blog posts to read, did y'all see this gem? <a href="https://msirringhaus.github.io/Where-everything-went-wrong/">https://msirringhaus.github.io/Where-everything-went-wrong/</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>i had not <span aria-label="eyes" class="emoji emoji-1f440" role="img" title="eyes">:eyes:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226267558" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226267558">(Feb 13 2021 at 21:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>where did you come acroos it <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="300743">@Sean Chen</span> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226267603" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226267603">(Feb 13 2021 at 21:11)</a>:</h4>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226267658" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226267658">(Feb 13 2021 at 21:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226267558">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>where did you come acroos it <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="300743">Sean Chen</span> ?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>On the front page of the Rust subreddit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226425057" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226425057">(Feb 15 2021 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>So the tentative recurring time for this meeting is now Thursdays at 11 PST. Is that starting this week?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226425094" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226425094">(Feb 15 2021 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>could you put it in the &gt;time syntax?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226425191" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226425191">(Feb 15 2021 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><time datetime="2021-02-18T17:00:00Z">2021-02-18T11:00:00-06:00</time></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226425680" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226425680">(Feb 15 2021 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>are you sure that's correct? because it shows me as 09.00 UTC+1 <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226425907" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226425907">(Feb 15 2021 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite" data-code-language="Bash"><pre><span></span><code>ϐ <span class="nv">TZ</span><span class="o">=</span>UTC date -d <span class="s1">'thursday 11am PST'</span>
Thu Feb <span class="m">18</span> <span class="m">19</span>:00:00 UTC <span class="m">2021</span>
</code></pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226426458" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226426458">(Feb 15 2021 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>correected now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226432943" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226432943">(Feb 15 2021 at 21:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><time datetime="2021-02-18T19:00:00Z">2021-02-18T11:00:00-08:00</time></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226596178" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226596178">(Feb 16 2021 at 23:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>for this meeting are we each bringing an error pattern example to look at?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226596952" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226596952">(Feb 17 2021 at 00:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think as long as one person brings a discussion topic we should be good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226597050" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226597050">(Feb 17 2021 at 00:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do you have an pattern you would like to focus on already in mind?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226597455" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226597455">(Feb 17 2021 at 00:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="220273">@Jane Lusby</span>  what exactly do you mean by pattern?  Is there an example I could look <span aria-label="eyes" class="emoji emoji-1f440" role="img" title="eyes">:eyes:</span> at?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226597728" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226597728">(Feb 17 2021 at 00:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344328">@Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> <a href="https://rust-unofficial.github.io/patterns/">https://rust-unofficial.github.io/patterns/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226597752" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226597752">(Feb 17 2021 at 00:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>And <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_design_pattern">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_design_pattern</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226598151" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226598151">(Feb 17 2021 at 00:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thank you.  I needed to ensure I would be on the same page.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226660079" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226660079">(Feb 17 2021 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226597050">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Do you have an pattern you would like to focus on already in mind?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>maybe defining custom hooks?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226674868" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226674868">(Feb 17 2021 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>For panic handling?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226675615" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226675615">(Feb 17 2021 at 15:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226674868">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>For panic handling?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>ya or for error handlers I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226683427" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Thom Chiovoloni <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226683427">(Feb 17 2021 at 16:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>i just lurk here, but i feel like most of the error handling patterns i see (<em>definitely</em> including ones i wrote myself) are kinda antipatterns in a lot of ways. there's:</p>
<ul>
<li>big catch-all error enum (sometimes with extra boxing, sometimes not).</li>
<li>replicating std::io::Error, but usually not as thoroughly (and thus not as well)</li>
<li>newtyped String</li>
<li>...</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226684935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226684935">(Feb 17 2021 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>big catch-all error enum (sometimes with extra boxing, sometimes not).</p>
</blockquote>
<p>why is this an antipattern?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226685238" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> scottmcm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226685238">(Feb 17 2021 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>My guess would be that there's a certain size where exhaustive matching becomes unnecessary (and potentially impossible, as if it's that big it's plausibly <code>#[non_exhaustive]</code>), and it would be better to just use boxing and downcasting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226685459" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Thom Chiovoloni <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226685459">(Feb 17 2021 at 16:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah that basically. in rusqlite i have <a href="https://github.com/rusqlite/rusqlite/blob/master/src/error.rs">https://github.com/rusqlite/rusqlite/blob/master/src/error.rs</a> and I'd love to move it to some other model, probably something more io::Error-shaped (that said it would be a huge breaking change and I'm unsure it's worth it)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226685551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226685551">(Feb 17 2021 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yea I don't think it's fair to say enum error types are an antipattern in general, but they can definitely be misapplied</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226685573" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Thom Chiovoloni <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226685573">(Feb 17 2021 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>as soon as you end up storing user errors (as Box&lt;dyn Error + ...&gt;) it's a headache since you end up with your own errors in there in some cases. And then uyou kinda want anyhow-style tearoffs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226685697" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Thom Chiovoloni <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226685697">(Feb 17 2021 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah i dont think it's an antipattern until it's very big</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226685774" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Thom Chiovoloni <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226685774">(Feb 17 2021 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>it also becomes a performance problem since every function does a lot of stack copying to handle the Result</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226777457" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226777457">(Feb 18 2021 at 08:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>we planned on having a section for anti-patterns so I think that this information is valid content</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226796629" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226796629">(Feb 18 2021 at 11:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>the pattern for custom hooks involves trait-based error typing which doesn't use <code>dyn</code> <br>
but would have a custom trait for adding information as the handler is pushed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226797190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226797190">(Feb 18 2021 at 11:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>the current outline for editing into is here for everyone: <br>
<a href="https://cryptpad.fr/code/#/2/code/edit/1FhyaBOOANgdSTKA8xbYIt8t/">https://cryptpad.fr/code/#/2/code/edit/1FhyaBOOANgdSTKA8xbYIt8t/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226861623" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226861623">(Feb 18 2021 at 18:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>setting up a zoom call now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226861874" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226861874">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://us05web.zoom.us/j/85717160604?pwd=UnQ2ak1mR3VxemV3VnhGOG4zamQ5dz09">https://us05web.zoom.us/j/85717160604?pwd=UnQ2ak1mR3VxemV3VnhGOG4zamQ5dz09</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226861983" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226861983">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>lmk if you're having trouble joining</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226863211" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226863211">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://docs.rs/eyre/0.6.5/eyre/trait.EyreHandler.html">https://docs.rs/eyre/0.6.5/eyre/trait.EyreHandler.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226863430" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226863430">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://docs.rs/eyre/0.6.5/eyre/fn.set_hook.html">https://docs.rs/eyre/0.6.5/eyre/fn.set_hook.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226863749" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Edmund Cape <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226863749">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Apologies, where is the index file you referenced?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226863769" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226863769">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226797190">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>the current outline for editing into is here for everyone: <br>
<a href="https://cryptpad.fr/code/#/2/code/edit/1FhyaBOOANgdSTKA8xbYIt8t/">https://cryptpad.fr/code/#/2/code/edit/1FhyaBOOANgdSTKA8xbYIt8t/</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>this right here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226863781" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Edmund Cape <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226863781">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thank you!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226863958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226863958">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/async-book/">https://rust-lang.github.io/async-book/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226868267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226868267">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="300743">@Sean Chen</span> did you need to go or did you DC?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226868608" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226868608">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>DC'd <span aria-label="frown" class="emoji emoji-1f641" role="img" title="frown">:frown:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226869299" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> scottmcm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226869299">(Feb 18 2021 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="209168">Thom Chiovoloni</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226685774">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>it also becomes a performance problem since every function does a lot of stack copying to handle the Result</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This seems like it could be a good clippy lint, actually.  I didn't see a similar one in a quick scan over the list...</p>
<p>(Also reminds me of the conversation about the potential of special-casing <code>-&gt; Result</code> in rust-abi to do something fancier there...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226871945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226871945">(Feb 18 2021 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh yea, like swift</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226876748" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226876748">(Feb 18 2021 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="281739">@oliver</span> for the scratch pad, is that automatically backed up and versioned?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226876814" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226876814">(Feb 18 2021 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="388128">@Edmund Cape</span> recorded a bunch of notes from todays meeting at the bottom of the summary scratch pad and I just want to make sure we don't accidentally lose them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226883696" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226883696">(Feb 18 2021 at 21:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="388128">@Edmund Cape</span> you were right, I had misunderstood what sean wanted to work on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226883719" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226883719">(Feb 18 2021 at 21:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>so sean is gonna handle the minigrep aka cli chapter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226921027" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226921027">(Feb 19 2021 at 05:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226876748">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span> for the scratch pad, is that automatically backed up and versioned?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes but you need an account for me to share ownership afiak, otherwise I can revert any documentation terrorism</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226921041" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226921041">(Feb 19 2021 at 05:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>not super worried about terrorism, mostly just accidents</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226921043" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226921043">(Feb 19 2021 at 05:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>but good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226921047" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226921047">(Feb 19 2021 at 05:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226921100" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226921100">(Feb 19 2021 at 05:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think overall I prefer a system where people can contribute anonymously and not have to feel like what they are writing will be attributed back on them somehow</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226921142" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226921142">(Feb 19 2021 at 05:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226921041">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>not super worried about terrorism, mostly just accidents</p>
</blockquote>
<p><span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226921154" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226921154">(Feb 19 2021 at 05:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you have an account I can try to share ownership with you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226921174" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226921174">(Feb 19 2021 at 05:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't, but I can make one tomorrow</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226921517" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226921517">(Feb 19 2021 at 05:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>here is my profile link: <a href="https://cryptpad.fr/profile/#/2/profile/view/vahfwEfw7Reskmfpl2wOEtBJ4jOcj3iQktqMTborNBU/">https://cryptpad.fr/profile/#/2/profile/view/vahfwEfw7Reskmfpl2wOEtBJ4jOcj3iQktqMTborNBU/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/226970347" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#226970347">(Feb 19 2021 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/226921100">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I think overall I prefer a system where people can contribute anonymously and not have to feel like what they are writing will be attributed back on them somehow</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I second that, lest somebody hangs us when their computer catches fire and halts after implementing the code from the book</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227175666" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227175666">(Feb 21 2021 at 15:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>here's a pretty large enum: <a href="https://github.com/Geal/nom/blob/master/src/error.rs#L362">https://github.com/Geal/nom/blob/master/src/error.rs#L362</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227175713" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227175713">(Feb 21 2021 at 15:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>That seems fine to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227175776" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227175776">(Feb 21 2021 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>The problem isn't so much when you have many variants as when you have large variants</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227175785" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227175785">(Feb 21 2021 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Or when you're wrapping the same error through many paths of interconnecting enums</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227175794" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227175794">(Feb 21 2021 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>So it's hard to express the match statements you need</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227175800" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227175800">(Feb 21 2021 at 15:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you have an example of that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227175813" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227175813">(Feb 21 2021 at 15:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm still looking</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227175825" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227175825">(Feb 21 2021 at 15:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Tikv maybe?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227175923" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227175923">(Feb 21 2021 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="256841">@Nick Cameron</span> might be able to point us at trouble spots</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227176030" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227176030">(Feb 21 2021 at 15:56)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/kv/mod.rs#L372">https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/kv/mod.rs#L372</a>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227177273" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227177273">(Feb 21 2021 at 16:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Not sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227177276" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227177276">(Feb 21 2021 at 16:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/nick_r_cameron/status/1361457452961566721?s=19">https://twitter.com/nick_r_cameron/status/1361457452961566721?s=19</a></p>
<div class="inline-preview-twitter"><div class="twitter-tweet"><a href="https://twitter.com/nick_r_cameron/status/1361457452961566721?s=19"><img class="twitter-avatar" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/344513261579814111/7a2e364ff2b85cbec4ff7196ce7260d1_normal.png"></a><p>TiKV is a big Rust project and because it must be reliable, we do a lot with errors. Our error handling is a bit of a mess, though I'm not 100% sure if it is an important mess or a just an aesthetically displeasing mess.</p><span>- nrc (@nick_r_cameron)</span></div></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227177285" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227177285">(Feb 21 2021 at 16:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Here's a Twitter thread where Nick goes over a bunch of the issues they're facing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227178592" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227178592">(Feb 21 2021 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>hopefully those are usable code examples, if it's not very information rich idk</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227190405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nick Cameron <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227190405">(Feb 21 2021 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>So,  we have loads of error types, for example: in the <code>storage</code> module we have: <a href="https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/errors.rs">https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/errors.rs</a>, <a href="https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/mvcc/mod.rs">https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/mvcc/mod.rs</a>, <a href="https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/txn/mod.rs#L88">https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/txn/mod.rs#L88</a>, and <a href="https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/kv/mod.rs#L286">https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/kv/mod.rs#L286</a> (storage::Error, storage::mvcc::Error, storage::txn::Error, storage::kv::Error) and they can basically all nest each other plus other errors (std::io::Error or tikv_util::codec::Error, for example) plus they have an <code>Other</code> variant to take a dynamic error. So, you have horrible match statements like this: <a href="https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/errors.rs#L190">https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/master/src/storage/errors.rs#L190</a> when trying to find a specific class of error</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227205300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227205300">(Feb 22 2021 at 00:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>this happens.. by design?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227309922" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227309922">(Feb 22 2021 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/nick_r_cameron/status/1361467954395832323?s=20">https://twitter.com/nick_r_cameron/status/1361467954395832323?s=20</a></p>
<div class="inline-preview-twitter"><div class="twitter-tweet"><a href="https://twitter.com/nick_r_cameron/status/1361467954395832323?s=20"><img class="twitter-avatar" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/344513261579814111/7a2e364ff2b85cbec4ff7196ce7260d1_normal.png"></a><p>I think there isn't a technical solution, only a cultural one to not do this. Perhaps augmented by tooling</p><span>- nrc (@nick_r_cameron)</span></div></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227316723" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227316723">(Feb 22 2021 at 18:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>do we have any ideas about tooling? does this just imply lints?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227316966" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227316966">(Feb 22 2021 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Not sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227316983" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227316983">(Feb 22 2021 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>My best guess is to tooling that assists knowing when to box</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227316997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227316997">(Feb 22 2021 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Just basically exposing more information on when error types are getting a bit too large</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227317043" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227317043">(Feb 22 2021 at 18:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Because I think a lot of the boxing and tikv is to manage stack frame sizes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227317130" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227317130">(Feb 22 2021 at 18:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>should we draft a blog post?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227317210" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227317210">(Feb 22 2021 at 18:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>then include a general example in the anti-patterns section?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227321357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227321357">(Feb 22 2021 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like sounding the alarms about this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819286" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819286">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>meeting time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819322" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819322">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="388128">@Edmund Cape</span> ty for reminding me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819347" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819347">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>and theres no recurring link</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819354" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819354">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>i just make a zoom meeting each time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819388" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819388">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>shit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819418" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819418">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>gotta restart my computer, brb</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819421" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Edmund Cape <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819421">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh :))</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819654" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819654">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is this the regular meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819690" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819690">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's the meeting for working on the Error Handling book</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819697" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Edmund Cape <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819697">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes.  Jane is rebooting her system.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227819736" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227819736">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://us05web.zoom.us/j/89117362209?pwd=ZFFsNU9oc1puR0x0dmh3RGR0cmd1Zz09">https://us05web.zoom.us/j/89117362209?pwd=ZFFsNU9oc1puR0x0dmh3RGR0cmd1Zz09</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227820523" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Edmund Cape <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227820523">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you have link to the notes?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227820542" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227820542">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://cryptpad.fr/code/#/2/code/edit/1FhyaBOOANgdSTKA8xbYIt8t/">https://cryptpad.fr/code/#/2/code/edit/1FhyaBOOANgdSTKA8xbYIt8t/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227820557" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227820557">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/seanchen1991/error-handling-examples/tree/main/examples/minigrep">https://github.com/seanchen1991/error-handling-examples/tree/main/examples/minigrep</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227826999" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227826999">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://us05web.zoom.us/j/81003608296?pwd=b0RVd1pYenRYWjJsRjhyQ0lIYUJvdz09">https://us05web.zoom.us/j/81003608296?pwd=b0RVd1pYenRYWjJsRjhyQ0lIYUJvdz09</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227827057" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Edmund Cape <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227827057">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>the meeting is now a pumpkin.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227827077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227827077">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>new link</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227827213" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Edmund Cape <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227827213">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>may you send the new link?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227827270" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227827270">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/227826999">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="https://us05web.zoom.us/j/81003608296?pwd=b0RVd1pYenRYWjJsRjhyQ0lIYUJvdz09">https://us05web.zoom.us/j/81003608296?pwd=b0RVd1pYenRYWjJsRjhyQ0lIYUJvdz09</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>its this one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227827510" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227827510">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF/near/227820542">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="https://cryptpad.fr/code/#/2/code/edit/1FhyaBOOANgdSTKA8xbYIt8t/">https://cryptpad.fr/code/#/2/code/edit/1FhyaBOOANgdSTKA8xbYIt8t/</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>this one <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="388128">@Edmund Cape</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227827805" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227827805">(Feb 25 2021 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="/user_uploads/4715/fPQCKhfM3UAD7_DzOueWNh8a/Screenshot-from-2021-02-25-11-53-42.png">Screenshot-from-2021-02-25-11-53-42.png</a></p>
<div class="message_inline_image"><a href="/user_uploads/4715/fPQCKhfM3UAD7_DzOueWNh8a/Screenshot-from-2021-02-25-11-53-42.png" title="Screenshot-from-2021-02-25-11-53-42.png"><img src="/user_uploads/4715/fPQCKhfM3UAD7_DzOueWNh8a/Screenshot-from-2021-02-25-11-53-42.png"></a></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/227829380" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Edmund Cape <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#227829380">(Feb 25 2021 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thank you! <a href="mailto:edmund.cape@lucivia.com">edmund.cape@lucivia.com</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228818016" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228818016">(Mar 04 2021 at 17:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>book meeting in 1 hour 15 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228818111" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228818111">(Mar 04 2021 at 17:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://hackmd.io/@rust-libs/SkPmShkLD">https://hackmd.io/@rust-libs/SkPmShkLD</a> includes link to the notes from previous meetings</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228818113" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228818113">(Mar 04 2021 at 17:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>and action items</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228824501" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228824501">(Mar 04 2021 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>35 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228830264" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228830264">(Mar 04 2021 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>meeting time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228830270" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228830270">(Mar 04 2021 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://us05web.zoom.us/j/83399881921?pwd=emM1b2VpdWZNUE0vc3BGZ2FTU0NDZz09">https://us05web.zoom.us/j/83399881921?pwd=emM1b2VpdWZNUE0vc3BGZ2FTU0NDZz09</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228832335" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228832335">(Mar 04 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like we don't have much to talk about today, I'm still working on the blog post and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344328">@Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> is still working on the error handling map diagram</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228832361" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228832361">(Mar 04 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>we went ahead and called this meeting for now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228832404" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228832404">(Mar 04 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I get the feeling that we might not have a ton of capacity for the book rn so I'm probably going to reduce the meeting frequency on it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228832410" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228832410">(Mar 04 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>to every other week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/228832658" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#228832658">(Mar 04 2021 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/231832798" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#231832798">(Mar 25 2021 at 16:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not going to be able to make today's book meeting, if someone else can run it in my absence that would be great, otherwise we may need to cancel this week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/231847915" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#231847915">(Mar 25 2021 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span>  Making headway on the diagram.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book%20Error%20Handling%20BoF/near/231880366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Book.20Error.20Handling.20BoF.html#231880366">(Mar 25 2021 at 21:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was afk for most of the day <span aria-label="sun face" class="emoji emoji-1f31e" role="img" title="sun face">:sun_face:</span></p>



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